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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: Connecting to Internet
Date: 9 Feb 2000 19:31:59 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
In article <87sd5c$1mb3$1@news.enteract.com>,
Dale A. Dellutri <ddellutr@enteract.com> wrote:
: ...
: Are there any plans to include a basic PPP driver in C-Kermit itself?
:
No. PPP is a very complicated protocol and UNIX, VMS, etc, already have
PPP drivers.
: In other words, C-Kermit would not need any external software to
: establish a PPP connection (over dial-up), and then allow telnet or
: set host or whatever from within C-Kermit to establish a terminal
: session with a remote host. I'd like this capability in the VMS, UNIX
: and Windows version of C-Kermit.
:
: Note that C-Kermit would not have to "hand off" this PPP connection to
: any other program (though that would be a nice feature in those
: systems for which "hand off" is possible) -- it would be used solely
: for that C-Kermit session.
:
Well, it would still need a TCP/IP stack. Only MS-DOS Kermit has its own
built in, simply because DOS doesn't include one, whereas Windows 95 and
later does, as do Unix, VMS, etc (although sometimes as add-ons). Anyway,
it's not clear how an internal PPP implementation would interface to the
external TCP/IP stack.
: Any plans for this?
:
It might be an interesting area of inquiry, but given all the other
demands, there's not much liklihood anybody would ever find time for it,
unless it was in the framework of academic research or instruction, e.g.
a class project. This is not a cop-out -- a great many of Kermit's features
came about that way. Kermit source code often acts as a "lab" in the
academic setting, in which all sorts of ideas can be explored and tested
in an operational environment.
It might make sense for MS-DOS Kermit to include its own integrated
PPP driver, but that would be a large undertaking and given the availability
of external drivers, the cost versus benefit ratio seems prohibitive.
- Frank